The Daily

Robby Hoffman Will Always Feel Poor, No Matter How Rich She Gets

<p>The comedian and actor says class and the way she grew up inform everything about the way she lives now.</p> <ul> <li>Thoughts? Email us at <strong>theinterview@nytimes.com</strong></li> <li>Watch our show on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast</strong></a></li> <li>For transcripts and more, visit: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/theinterview</strong></a></li> </ul> <p><br>  </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Supreme Court Delivers Big Wins for Trump’s Immigration Agenda

<p>The Supreme Court delivered big wins for President Trump’s immigration agenda on Thursday. Two polarized decisions closed off another path to seek legal status in the United States and potentially set the stage for hundreds of thousands of people to be deported.</p> <p>Hamed Aleaziz, who covers immigration policy for The New York Times, explains how these rulings have given Mr. Trump new tools to reshape immigration in America.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/hamed-aleaziz" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Hamed Aleaziz</strong></a>, who covers the Department of Homeland Security and immigration policy in the United States for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>The Supreme Court <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/us/politics/supreme-court-temporary-protected-status.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">expanded Mr. Trump’s power</a> over immigration.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Kenny Holston/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Mayor Mamdani Flexes His Power in the Midterms

<p>On Tuesday, a blowout in the New York primaries cemented Mayor Zohran Mamdani as a local kingmaker. All of his chosen candidates won, and their victories pointed to a growing movement within the Democratic Party.</p> <p>Nicholas Fandos, who covers New York politics for The New York Times, explains whether their victories will help Democrats in the midterms.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/nicholas-fandos" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Nicholas Fandos</strong></a>, a reporter covering New York politics and government for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Mr. Mamdani shook the Democratic establishment <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/nyregion/mamdani-politics-influence.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">by helping drive three progressive candidates to victory</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/nyregion/democrats-unions-primaries-nyc.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s why</a> New York’s Democratic establishment fell to Team Mamdani.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Lexi Parra/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

How the Iran Deal Is Testing the U.S.-Israel Alliance

<p>As the United States and Iran try to reach a lasting end to the war, a major hurdle has emerged: the volatile conflict in Lebanon. President Trump needs Israel to stop attacking Hezbollah there to get Iran to agree to a deal.</p> <p>The New York Times reporters Ronen Bergman and Mark Mazzetti discuss the growing tensions between the United States and Israel.</p> <p>Guest:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ronen-bergman" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ronen Bergman</strong></a>, a staff writer for The New York Times Magazine based in Tel Aviv.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/mark-mazzetti" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Mark Mazzetti</strong></a>, an investigative reporter for The New York Times based in Washington focusing on national security.</li> </ul> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Analysis: The conflict in Lebanon has become <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/19/world/middleeast/lebanon-us-iran-deal-ceasefire.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">one of the main obstacles</a> to ending the American-Israeli war on Iran.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/18/world/middleeast/vance-israel-critics-us-iran-deal.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Vice President JD Vance lashed out at Israeli critics</a> of a U.S.-Iran agreement.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: David Guttenfelder/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

As Trump Purges Immigration Judges, One Speaks Out

<p>Through his second term, President Trump has systematically pressured judges to carry out his agenda in a little-known court system that oversees immigration.</p> <p>Nicholas Nehamas, a Washington correspondent for The New York Times, speaks to Judge Holly D’Andrea about the Trump administration’s efforts to speed up deportations.</p> <p>Guest:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/nicholas-nehamas" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Nicholas Nehamas</strong></a>, a Washington correspondent for The New York Times.</li> <li><strong>Holly D’Andrea</strong>, an immigration judge and president of the National Association of Immigration Judges.</li> </ul> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>How <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/09/us/politics/trump-miller-immigration-judges-purge.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mr. Trump purged immigration judges</a> to speed up deportations.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Desiree Rios for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

R.F.K. Jr.’s Newest Mission: Getting Us Off Antidepressants

<p>In his latest public health crusade, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., the health secretary, is asking why millions of Americans have been taking psychiatric drugs for far longer than ever intended.</p> <p>In the process, he’s highlighting an open secret in medicine: that doctors are better at starting drug treatments than at stopping them, and that patients who want to end their treatment are increasingly taking matters into their own hands.</p> <p>Ellen Barry, a mental health reporter, takes us inside the growing movement to “deprescribe.”</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ellen-barry" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ellen Barry</strong></a>, a reporter covering mental health for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: Some psychiatrists fear that Mr. Kennedy’s call to rein in the use of depression medications will <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/24/science/rfk-jr-antidepressants-ssri-psychiatry.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">drive patients away from care.</a></p> <p>Photo: Darren Staples/Reuters</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Can a Bad Man Be a Good Father?

<p>The writer Tom Junod has spent a career crafting profiles for men’s magazines like GQ and Esquire, often of famously complicated men like Norman Mailer, Kevin Spacey and Tony Curtis.</p> <p>But another man loomed behind Junod’s interest in these figures, informing his own sense of masculinity and manhood: his father, Lou.</p> <p>Lou Junod was handsome, charismatic — a man who seemed like a celebrity, even though he wasn’t famous. He was also mysterious, a keeper of secrets that have continued to reverberate through his son’s life.</p> <p>On today’s episode, Michael Barbaro talks with Junod about his new book, “<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/11/books/review/in-the-days-of-my-youth-i-was-told-what-it-means-to-be-a-man-tom-junod.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">In the Days of My Youth I Was Told What It Means to Be a Man,</a>” which is part memoir and part detective story, as well as a powerful meditation on fatherhood.</p> <p><strong>On Today’s Episode:</strong></p> <p><strong>Tom Junod</strong> is the author of <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/89092/in-the-days-of-my-youth-i-was-told-what-it-means-to-be-a-man-by-tom-junod/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">“In the Days of My Youth I Was Told What It Means to Be a Man.”</a></p> <p><strong>Background Reading:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/06/style/tom-junod-would-like-to-tell-you-about-his-father.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Tom Junod Would Like to Tell You About His Father</a></p> <p>Art: Lou Junod with baby Tom in 1958.</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Danny McBride Thinks Men Learned All the Wrong Lessons From Movies

<p>The writer and actor, known for his profane comedic antiheroes, likes to find universal truths in human flaws.</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Did Iran Come Out on Top in the Peace Deal?

<p>After three months of war, Iran and the United States have agreed to end the conflict and reopen the Strait of Hormuz. The news, which was first met with joy and relief, drew a wave of criticism when the actual terms of the agreement became public this week.</p> <p>David Sanger, a White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times, explains how the Trump administration has defended the deal, which seems to favor Iran.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-e-sanger" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>David E. Sanger</strong></a>, a White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>The U.S.-Iran deal, which left many of the toughest issues to future negotiations, came after <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/us/politics/us-iran-deal-trump.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a last-minute scramble.</a></li> <li>President Trump <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/world/middleeast/trump-iran-deal-obama.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">lashed out at critics of the agreement</a> and threatened to bomb Iran again if it violated the deal.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Arash Khamooshi/Polaris for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

The Untold Story of Jeffrey Epstein’s Death

<p><i>Warning: This episode discusses suicide.</i></p> <p>Hours after Jeffrey Epstein arrived at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, an employee expressed concern over his distraught state, saying in an email to the jail staff, “just to be on the safe side and prevent any suicidal thoughts can someone from Psychology come and talk with him.”</p> <p>The reporter Charles Homans details The New York Times’s major new investigation, which tries to answer the question: Did the world’s most powerful and well-connected sex offender die by his own hand or by somebody else’s?</p> <p><i>If you are having thoughts of suicide, call or text 988 to reach the 988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline, or go to </i><a href="http://speakingofsuicide.com/resources" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><i>SpeakingOfSuicide.com/resources</i></a><i> for a list of additional resources.</i></p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/charles-homans" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Charles Homans</strong></a>, a reporter covering national politics for The New York Times and The Times Magazine.</p> <p>Background reading: Congressional action made possible the fullest examination of Epstein’s death, and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/06/16/magazine/jeffrey-epstein-death-final-days.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The New York Times set out</a> to do it.</p> <p>Photo: The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

The Battle Over A.I. in the Classroom

<p>With the school year ending, all over the country educators and parents are taking stock of the drastic shift caused by artificial intelligence in the classroom.</p> <p>Today, Natasha Singer, a technology reporter, discusses the year that reshaped American classrooms and how one dedicated teacher helped his students chart their own path into an uncertain future.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/natasha-singer" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Natasha Singer</strong></a>, a technology reporter for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Teachers say they want to <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/technology/ai-literacy-newark-school-chatbots.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">equip high school students to drive A.I.</a>, rather than be mere passengers steered by chatbots.</li> <li>A.I. companies are urging <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/23/business/ai-literacy-faq.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">teachers to prepare students for an “A.I.-driven future.”</a></li> <li>The <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/27/technology/ai-screens-schools-weingarten.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">American Federation of Teachers recommended</a> “no screens” at all for those in second grade or younger, and no A.I. chatbots for students in elementary school.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Juan Arredondo for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

A Gen Z Revolution at the Movies

<p>For years, Hollywood has been trying to figure out how to get young people into movie theaters. This spring, it has happened at an unthinkable scale thanks to two low-budget horror films made by 20-something directors.</p> <p>Today my colleague Kyle Buchanan explains what younger audiences see in these films and how they’ve energized an entire industry.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/kyle-buchanan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Kyle Buchanan</strong></a>, a pop culture reporter and awards season columnist for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: The viral creator Kane Parsons, who directed “Backrooms,” has gone from <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/29/movies/kane-parsons-24-youngest-director-backrooms.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">YouTube sensation to A24’s youngest director.</a></p> <p>Photo: Focus Features</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Inside Trump’s New Deal With Iran

<p>After days of promising that a cease-fire was near, President Trump announced late Sunday that he had reached a deal with Iran.</p> <p>Today, David Sanger, who spoke to the president, explains what is and is not included in the framework agreement, and how much closer it gets both sides to ending the war for good.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-e-sanger" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>David E. Sanger</strong></a><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/kyle-buchanan" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">,</a> the White House and national security correspondent for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Mr. Trump says the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/14/us/politics/trump-iran-deal-strait-of-hormuz.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Strait of Hormuz will be “permanently toll-free”</a> under the agreement with Iran.</li> <li>Washington and Tehran reach <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/06/15/world/iran-war-trump-us-deal" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a framework for peace</a>.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Arash Khamooshi/Polaris for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Do Aliens Exist? Steven Spielberg Believes They Do

<p>Almost 50 years ago, Steven Spielberg directed “Close Encounters of the Third Kind,” the story of an average man who discovers that humanity may not be alone in the universe. Over the decades, Spielberg has directed several movies about what would happen if humanity made contact with aliens. Would the aliens be kind like the title character in “E.T. the Extra Terrestrial”? Would they be cruel like the murderous aliens of “War of the Worlds”? And regardless of what the aliens were like, would we humans be ready to receive them?</p> <p>Spielberg returns to the question of whether we’re alone in the universe, and what it might mean if we’re not, with his new film “Disclosure Day.” Today, he sits down with Rachel Abrams, a host of “The Daily,” to talk about the film, and about what he has learned over five decades of making movies about aliens.</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>On Today’s Episode</strong></p> <p>Steven Spielberg, director of “Disclosure Day.”</p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Background Reading</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/11/movies/disclosure-day-review-steven-spielberg.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">‘Disclosure Day’ Review: Spielberg Plays His Greatest Cosmic Hits</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/07/magazine/steven-spielberg-movie-theater-disclosure-day.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What Steven Spielberg Taught Me About Fear, Catharsis, and Being Human</a></p> <p> </p> <p><strong>Photo credit: </strong>Paolo Pellegrin/Magnum, for The New York Times</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Seth Rogen Knows the Secret to Marriage — and Being Rich in Hollywood

<p>The actor-writer-director-producer on successful relationships (platonic and romantic), Hollywood’s volatility and his role in normalizing weed.</p> <ul> <li>Thoughts? Email us at <strong>theinterview@nytimes.com</strong></li> <li>Watch our show on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast</strong></a></li> <li>For transcripts and more, visit: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/theinterview</strong></a></li> </ul> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

1979: How the U.S. and Iran Went From Allies to Enemies

<p>At the heart of the current U.S. war against Iran is an inconvenient truth: that the United States is, in many ways, responsible for creating the very regime it now seeks to topple.</p> <p>Today, Scott Anderson, a New York Times Magazine contributor, tells the story of America’s outsize role in the Islamic Revolution, and why all these years later we’re still no closer to understanding Iran.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/scott-anderson" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Scott Anderson</strong></a>, a contributing writer for The New York Times Magazine.</p> <p>Background reading: It has been a trying time <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/opinion/iran-protests-death-toll.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">for the Islamic republic of Iran</a>.</p> <p>Photo: George Tames/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

The Young Economic Populists Reshaping the Left

<p>College graduates used to lean right politically, but over the past few decades, they have increasingly moved to the left.</p> <p>Today, Noam Scheiber, the author of “Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class,” explains the economic forces that have left many college grads deeply indebted, underpaid and angry, and also how their unmet expectations are reshaping class politics in America.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/noam-scheiber" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Noam Scheiber</strong></a>, a reporter for The New York Times based in the Chicago area who focuses on white-collar workers.</p> <p>Background reading: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/27/business/college-graduates-economy-unemployment-.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">College graduates feel betrayed,</a> and<i><strong> </strong></i>their anger goes far beyond the recent rise of unemployment and the looming threat of artificial intelligence.</p> <p>Photo: Camille Farrah Lenain for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

The Iran War&apos;s Devastating Butterfly Effect

<p>The war in Iran has had some visible consequences, like skyrocketing energy costs and higher gas prices, but the effects of this war are often far less obvious and much more serious for the world’s most vulnerable people.</p> <p>Today, Peter S. Goodman tells us what he learned on a recent trip to Somalia, and why the system of global aid is no longer in a position to help.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/peter-s-goodman" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Peter S. Goodman</strong></a> covers the global economy for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/18/business/iran-war-somalia-usaid.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Catastrophe is emerging in the world’s most vulnerable places</a> as the war in Iran causes soaring costs for food, fuel and fertilizer.</p> <p>Photo: Finbarr O'Reilly for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Maine Votes as Graham Platner’s Past Poses New Conundrums

<p>On Tuesday, Maine will vote in a high-stakes primary contest for a Senate seat that Democrats think they can win back from Republicans for the first time in decades. Democrats are pinning their hopes on Graham Platner, a progressive who has faced a string of scandals.</p> <p>Today, Lisa Lerer and Katie Glueck discuss what this race means for Maine and for the prospects of the Democratic Party.</p> <p>Guest: </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/lisa-lerer" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Lisa Lerer</strong></a>, a national political correspondent for The New York Times.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/katie-glueck" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Katie Glueck</strong></a>, a political reporter at The New York Times.</li> </ul> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Several <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">women who dated Mr. Platner recall “unsettling” behavior</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/05/us/politics/platner-democrats-maine-senate-primary-election.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Politicians, officials and strategists have wrestled with how to respond</a> to new reporting on Mr. Platner’s past behavior.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Amanda Sabga/Reuters</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Congressional Republicans Try a New Approach: Telling Trump No

<p>From the war in Iran to his plan to use taxpayer money to pay his allies, the Republican-controlled Congress has begun rebelling against President Trump.</p> <p>Today, Julie Hirschfeld Davis, a congressional editor at The New York Times, discusses whether this rebellion is a preview of a new dynamic in Washington, or a temporary show of independence that will vanish just as quickly as it arrived.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/julie-hirschfeld-davis" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Julie Hirschfield Davis</strong></a>, congressional editor at The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/07/us/politics/trump-new-wars-compensation-fund.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Mr. Trump says he never promised no new wars</a> and defends the compensation fund.</p> <p>Photo: Haiyun Jiang/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Scott Pelley on His Firing and the ‘Massacre’ at ’60 Minutes’

<p>An exclusive sit-down with the now-former CBS News correspondent.</p> <ul> <li>Thoughts? Email us at <strong>theinterview@nytimes.com</strong></li> <li>Watch our show on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast</strong></a></li> <li>For transcripts and more, visit: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/theinterview</strong></a></li> </ul> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Everything You Need to Know About the World Cup

<p>The 2026 World Cup is about to descend on North America — spread across three countries, with 48 teams, and 104 games, and with billions of fans across the globe tuning in to watch the biggest sporting event on the planet.</p> <p>Today, Tariq Panja, global soccer correspondent for The New York Times, breaks down everything you need to know about this year’s tournament — the arrival of historic first-timers, like Curaçao, the aging legends like Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo, who are making their final appearances, and the eye-watering ticket prices that are driving fans to financial extremes just to book a seat.</p> <p><strong>On Today’s Episode:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tariq-panja" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Tariq Panja</strong></a>, is a global sports correspondent for the New York Times.</p> <p><strong>Background Reading:</strong></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/16/sports/soccer/world-cup-migrant-workers.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">The World Cup’s Forgotten Team</a></p> <p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/06/world/americas/2026-world-cup-ticket-prices-argentina.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">World Cup or Bust: Going Into Debt, Sleeping 10 to a Room and Layovers for Days</a></p> <p>Photo credit: Hannah Mckay/Reuters. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

One Town&apos;s Blueprint for Resegregating America

<p>A real estate investor’s pursuit of cheap land has prompted a lawsuit against a compound in Arkansas that will test whether civil rights laws can stop a whites-only town from existing in America.</p> <p>Today, Debra Kamin, a New York Times investigative reporter, discusses the community and why its members are convinced that in this political climate, no one is going to stop them.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/debra-kamin" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Debra Kamin</strong></a>, an investigative reporter focusing on wealth, power and corruption for The The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: A <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/20/realestate/return-to-the-land-discrimination-lawsuit.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">whites-only community in Arkansas</a> has been sued for discrimination.</p> <p>Photo: Whitten Sabbatini for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer">nytimes.com/thedaily</a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

How Trump Was Persuaded to Regulate A.I.

<p>President Trump has begrudgingly accepted that artificial intelligence requires oversight and on Tuesday signed an executive order asking companies to voluntarily give the government access to new models before they’re released to the public.</p> <p>Tripp Mickle, who covers Silicon Valley, discusses the battle in the White House over the issue and how it played out over the last few weeks. </p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tripp-mickle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Tripp Mickle</strong></a>, who reports about Silicon Valley for The New York Times from San Francisco.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Mr. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/02/technology/trump-executive-order-ai.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trump signed an executive order</a> seeking oversight of A.I. models.</li> <li><a href="http://nytimes.com/2026/06/03/business/dealbook/trump-ai-pivot.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what’s driving</a> Mr. Trump’s big A.I. pivot.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Why the Ebola Outbreak Has Been Nearly Impossible to Stop

<p>At the front lines of the Ebola crisis in Central Africa, badly equipped health workers with little outside support are losing the fight against one of the worst outbreaks in history.</p> <p>Declan Walsh, a New York Times correspondent covering the outbreak, takes us to the epicenter of the virus and explains why, so far, its spread has been so difficult to stop.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/declan-walsh" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Declan Walsh</strong></a>, the chief Africa correspondent for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Inside the Ebola epicenter, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/world/africa/ebola-epicenter-congo.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the virus rages with little to stop it</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/17/world/africa/what-to-know-ebola-africa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what to know</a> about the Ebola outbreak.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Arlette Bashizi for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p> </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

How Elon Musk Engineered the World’s Biggest I.P.O.

<p>SpaceX, Elon Musk’s rocket and satellite maker, is set to go public and begin selling shares as soon as next week.</p> <p>Ryan Mac, who reports on business, explains the plan for the company’s expected record-shattering debut on the stock market, and how it is changing the rules for investing.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ryan-mac" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ryan Mac</strong></a>, a New York Times reporter based in Los Angeles who covers corporate accountability across the global technology industry.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Why <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/29/business/spacex-openai-anthropic-ipo-invest.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">sky-high I.P.O. pricing</a> isn’t great for real people.</li> <li>From April: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/technology/spacex-ipo-elon-musk.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">SpaceX filed to go public</a>, setting the stage for a huge I.P.O.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Steve Nesius/Reuters</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Inside Trump’s Mad Dash to Renovate Washington

<p>In the lead-up to America’s 250th anniversary, President Trump is spending hundreds of millions of dollars on a major renovation of the nation’s capitol.</p> <p>David A. Fahrenthold, who has been investigating how the projects have come together, takes listeners on a walking tour of the sites being remade.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/david-a-fahrenthold" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>David A. Fahrenthold</strong></a>, an investigative reporter for The New York Times, writing primarily about nonprofit organizations.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>See <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2026/05/31/us/trump-reflecting-pool-problems.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">what’s wrong</a> with the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting Pool.</li> <li>A no-bid contract is <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/08/us/politics/reflecting-pool-trump-contract.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">turning the pool blue</a>.</li> <li>The firm building Mr. Trump’s ballroom got <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/25/us/politics/lafayette-park-fountains-trump-contract.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a secret no-bid contract for a nearby job</a>.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Allison Robbert for The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Popcast: Olivia Rodrigo Tried Writing Love Songs. Then Life Got Messy.

<p>Olivia Rodrigo sat down with Joe and Jon for her first in-depth conversation about her new album, “you seem pretty sad for a girl so in love,” out June 12. She discussed the many ways her creative process intersects with the extracurricular noise of pop superstardom, whether its managing relationship drama; being targeted for the way she dresses, accusations of pilfering songwriting gestures from Taylor Swift, her onetime idol, or her willingness to speak up about political and social causes in a way many of her peers won’t.</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Want to ‘Optimize’ Your Happiness? This Happiness Expert Says: Don’t.

<p>Laurie Santos on what will really bring meaning and fulfillment to your life, and what won’t.</p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

Stranded in the Strait of Hormuz

<p>While the United States and Iran have each signaled that they may be making progress toward a peace deal, the Strait of Hormuz remains closed.</p> <p>Thousands of crew members have been stranded in the shipping channel since the war broke out three months ago.</p> <p>Two seafarers who got stuck in the strait explain what it is like to be trapped in a war zone, and what it would mean to get everyone out.</p> <p>Guest: Capt. Virendra Vishwakarma, who managed to leave the Strait of Hormuz, and Aung Thu Khant, a seafarer who is still stuck.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/05/28/world/iran-war-us-trump-deal" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Read the latest updates</a> on the war in Iran.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/world/middleeast/sailors-stranded-phillipines-iran.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Thousands of civilian sailors have been stranded</a> in waters surrounded by a conflict zone because of the war.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Reuters</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>