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Brenda Schaefer and Mel Ignatow - Part 2

Brenda Schaefer, a beautiful 36 year old from Louisville Kentucky, went missing in September of 1988. Her car was found abandoned and vandalized early on a Sunday morning, but Brenda was nowhere to be found. Mel Ignatow, Brenda’s one-time fiancé, was an immediate suspect, but there was no direct evidence implicating him and no body. In part two of this two-part episode, we discuss Mel's trial and the aftermath.  Sources: <ol><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/507385.Double_Jeopardy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Double Jeopardy</a>, book by Bob Hill from 1995</li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111105_170000_Getting_Away_With_Murder" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Heart, Iron Hand - Getting Away With Murder</a>, MSNBC 2011</li><li><a href="https://www.wave3.com/story/8932145/ignatows-son-reacts-to-his-fathers-death/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.wave3.com/story/8932145/ignatows-son-reacts-to-his-fathers-death/</a></li></ol>

Special Report: Artificial Intelligence and Crime

Artificial Intelligence is advancing at an amazing rate. In this special bonus episode, we take a step back from our usual true crime stories to discuss AI as it relates to the world of crime. How is AI helping law enforcement? How is it helping criminals? What new forms of crime are we likely to see enabled by AI? And what is the existential threat posed by AI to humanity and what efforts are underway to avoid catastrophe? Sources: <ul><li><a href="https://www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151435033/a-robot-was-scheduled-to-argue-in-court-then-came-the-jail-threats" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.npr.org/2023/01/25/1151435033/a-robot-was-scheduled-to-argue-in-court-then-came-the-jail-threats</a> <a href="https://www.oliverwyman.com/our-expertise/insights/2018/dec/risk-journal-vol-8/rethinking-tactics/the-risks-and-benefits-of-using-ai-to-detect-crime.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.oliverwyman.com/our-expertise/insights/2018/dec/risk-journal-vol-8/rethinking-tactics/the-risks-and-benefits-of-using-ai-to-detect-crime.html</a></li><li><a href="https://www.newscientist.com/article/2326297-ai-predicts-crime-a-week-in-advance-with-90-per-cent-accuracy/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.newscientist.com/article/2326297-ai-predicts-crime-a-week-in-advance-with-90-per-cent-accuracy/</a></li><li><a href="https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00123-8" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://crimesciencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s40163-020-00123-8</a></li><li><a href="https://www.zdnet.com/article/evil-ai-these-are-the-20-most-dangerous-crimes-that-artificial-intelligence-will-create/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.zdnet.com/article/evil-ai-these-are-the-20-most-dangerous-crimes-that-artificial-intelligence-will-create/</a></li><li><a href="https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/ai-clones-teen-girls-voice-in-1m-kidnapping-scam/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://nypost.com/2023/04/12/ai-clones-teen-girls-voice-in-1m-kidnapping-scam/</a> </li><li>Max Tegmark interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvpaXOQJoU" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvpaXOQJoU</a></li><li>Geoffrey Hinton interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Sgp7y178k" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6Sgp7y178k</a> </li><li>Stephen Hawking interview: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLVyWBDTfo" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFLVyWBDTfo</a> </li><li>Max Tegmark interview: <a href="https://www.techseekinghuman.ai/episode-2-max-tegmark/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.techseekinghuman.ai/episode-2-max-tegmark/</a> </li><li>Morgan Freeman deepfake video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxXpB9pSETo&amp;t=3s" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxXpB9pSETo</a></li></ul>

Brenda Schaefer and Mel Ignatow - Part 1

Brenda Schaefer, a beautiful 36 year old from Louisville Kentucky, went missing in September of 1988. Her car was found abandoned and vandalized early on a Sunday morning, but Brenda was nowhere to be found. Mel Ignatow, Brenda’s one-time fiancé, was an immediate suspect, but there was no direct evidence implicating him and no body. In part one of this two-part episode, we discuss Brenda’s background, Brenda and Mel’s relationship, and the investigation into her disappearance.  Sources: <ol><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/507385.Double_Jeopardy" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Double Jeopardy</a>, book by Bob Hill from 1995</li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111105_170000_Getting_Away_With_Murder" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Dark Heart, Iron Hand - Getting Away With Murder</a>, MSNBC 2011</li><li><a href="https://www.wave3.com/story/8932145/ignatows-son-reacts-to-his-fathers-death/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.wave3.com/story/8932145/ignatows-son-reacts-to-his-fathers-death/</a></li></ol>

Susan and Felix Polk - Part 2

In part two of this two part episode, Tina tells the story of Susan Bolling and Felix Polk, who first met when she was 15 and he was 39. In this episode we talk about what led to Felix’s murder and the crazy trial where Susan defended herself. Will Susan be able to convince the jury the murder was self defense? We also discuss the murder of Pamela Vitale and the connection to Ed Gein.

Susan and Felix Polk - Part 1

In part one of this two part episode, Tina tells the story of Susan Bolling and Felix Polk, who first met when she was 15 and he was 39. Felix was Susan’s psychotherapist who took advantage of his position and began an inappropriate sexual relationship with her. They later married and had 3 sons together before Felix was murdered by Susan in 2002. Was it self defense or cold blooded murder? Listen to this disturbing tale of psychotherapy gone wrong and intense grooming. We also discuss the satanic panic of the 1980’s and the McMartin Preschool Scandal. Sources: <ol><li><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1277996.Seduced_by_Madness" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Seduced by Madness: The True Story of the Susan Polk Murder Case</a> by Carol Pogash, 1987</li><li><a href="https://www.oxygen.com/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials/crime-time/mcmartin-preschool-trial-where-are-they-now" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.oxygen.com/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials/crime-time/mcmartin-preschool-trial-where-are-they-now</a></li><li><a href="https://people.com/archive/cover-story-the-mcmartin-nightmare-vol-33-no-5/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://people.com/archive/cover-story-the-mcmartin-nightmare-vol-33-no-5/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.oxygen.com/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials/season-1/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.oxygen.com/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials/season-1/uncovered-the-mcmartin-family-trials</a> </li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial#Effects_on_child_abuse_research" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial#Effects_on_child_abuse_research</a></li><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/satanic-panic.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/us/satanic-panic.html</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG_w-uElGbM" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG_w-uElGbM</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Polk-son-arrested-again-this-week-2539474.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Polk-son-arrested-again-this-week-2539474.php</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/serial-killers/ed-gein/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.crimemuseum.org/crime-library/serial-killers/ed-gein/</a></li><li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Dyleski" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Dyleski</a> </li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKHIC4Qvb0" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miKHIC4Qvb0</a></li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111203_190000_Unlocking_the_Past/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111203_190000_Unlocking_the_Past/</a> </li><li><a href="https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111203_190000_Unlocking_the_Past/start/300/end/360" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://archive.org/details/MSNBCW_20111203_190000_Unlocking_the_Past/start/300/end/360</a></li><li><a href="https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/17/convicted-orinda-killer-susan-polk-denied-parole-kicked-out-of-hearing-midway-through/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/07/17/convicted-orinda-killer-susan-polk-denied-parole-kicked-out-of-hearing-midway-through/</a></li><li><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jun/07/what-happens-when-your-relationship-with-a-therapist-turns-into-an-afair" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jun/07/what-happens-when-your-relationship-with-a-therapist-turns-into-an-afair</a></li><li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/POLK-Dr-F-Felix-2756960.php" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/POLK-Dr-F-Felix-2756960.php</a></li></ol>

Honey and Barry Sherman - Part 2

Barry and Honey Sherman, a wealthy and philanthropic couple, were killed in December of 2017 at their home in Toronto. The circumstances of their death were bizarre and mysterious. Barry and Honey were loved by a lot of people, but they also had enemies who hated them both. In part two of this two-part episode, we discuss the suspects, possible motives, and the legacy of Barry and Honey Sherman.

The Week in Crime

In this bonus episode, we summarize several cases in the news, including the killing of six people in Oklahoma by convicted sex offender Jesse McFadden, the murder of Dr. Devon Hoover in Detroit, and the parole hearing of Leo Schofield.

Honey and Barry Sherman - Part 1

Barry and Honey Sherman, an incredibly wealthy and philanthropic couple, were killed in December of 2017 at their home in Toronto. The circumstances of their death were bizarre and mysterious. Barry and Honey were loved by a lot of people, but they also had enemies who hated them both. In part one of this two-part episode, we share Barry’s and Honey’s background, the crime scene, and the beginnings of the investigation.

Lizzie Borden

This week we go back in time to 1892 in Fall River Massachusetts and try to solve the most famous unsolved crime in American history, the murders of Andrew and Abby Borden. Did Lizzie Borden kill her parents in cold blood to gain access to the family fortune or was she an innocent Sunday school teacher and the real murderer evaded capture? You might think you know the whole story but we dive deep into this mystery and uncover some interesting facts and theories.

Angela and James Craig

In this week's episode, Tina tells the story of Angela and James Craig. Angela Pray Craig, 43, was an active, vibrant wife and mother to six children in Aurora, Colorado. Her husband, James, was a dentist with a busy practice. In March 2023, Angela was hospitalized 3 times. Doctors didn’t know what was causing her severe headaches, low blood pressure and disorientation. James had previously drugged Angela but insisted that he had not drugged her this time. Aa Angela’s health rapidly declined, an employee of the dental practice opened a package that had been delivered to the office containing potassium cyanide. Did James poison his devoted wife, causing her untimely death? We also discuss the latest news in the Shanquella Robinson case.

Nancy and Frank Howard

With her husband Frank out of town on business, 53 year old Nancy Howard was arriving home after picking up some takeout when she was accosted in her garage. The assailant took Nancy’s purse and shot her in the head. Was it a burglary gone wrong, or something more? Tune in for one of our craziest stories yet as we unravel the tale of Nancy and Frank Howard.

Patricia Kimmi

Pat Kimmi was a beloved mother of 4 and grandmother to 12 who went missing in November, 2009. She had recently divorced her abusive husband after 38 years of marriage. Her disappearance devastated her family and community who searched for her for weeks. They found clues along way, but it would take months for her body to be found. Who could have murdered this sweet lady? Was her husband involved? The answer might surprise you.

April and Rick Roehl

Rick Roehl and his wife April seemed to have it all - money, a perfect family, and a beautiful home. Rick was handsome and charming, while people said that April would light up a room. When April vanished without a trace, Rick claimed he would never hurt her, and that he would never give up trying to find her. Police were not fooled however. Tune in for our most shocking and tragic episode so far!

Elisa and Larry McNabney - Part 2

Larry McNabney was a successful, well-known lawyer, who seemingly vanished from the face of the earth on September 11th, 2001. Rumors began to swirl about Larry's wife Elisa and her young assistant Sarah Dutra, but it would take months for the mystery of Larry's disappearance to unravel. In part two of this two-part episode, we discuss the investigation into Larry's whereabouts and reveal what really happened to Larry McNabney.

Elisa and Larry McNabney - Part 1

Larry McNabney was a successful, well-known lawyer, who seemingly vanished from the face of the earth on September 11th, 2001. Rumors began to swirl about Larry's wife Elisa and her young assistant Sarah Dutra, but it would take months for the mystery of Larry's disappearance to unravel. In part one of this two-part episode, we discuss Larry's background and the circumstances around his disappearance.

Shanquella Robinson

Shanquella Robinson, 25, went to Cabo, Mexico with friends for a luxurious getaway in October, 2022. She did not survive the weekend. There were conflicting reports about what caused her death but a shocking cell phone video revealed that Shanquella suffered a brutal beating by one of the women she considered a friend. Shanquella’s friends and family are still waiting for justice to be served. This story will leave you shocked and heartbroken. #justiceforshanquellarobinson

Recent Cases in the News - Abby Choi and Constance Marten

In this bonus episode, we cover two cases in the news. First, the recent death of Abby Choi, a 28 year old socialite and influencer who was killed and dismembered by her ex-husband and in-laws in a devastating instance of greed. Second, we discuss wealthy aristocrat Constance Marten and her boyfriend Mark Gordon, whose disappearance along with their newborn baby in early January sparked a massive search in the UK.

John Miles Sharpe (The Mornington Monster)

John Miles Sharpe of Mornington, Australia brutally murdered his pregnant wife and 15 month old daughter in 2004 using a speargun. He disposed of their bodies and lied to police about their whereabouts for months. How long did his lies hold up and how was he caught? Listen today to find out about the horrible murders of The Mornington Monster.

Alex Murdaugh

In this bonus episode we discuss our feelings on the Murdaugh trial and the many victims of Alex, and we answer some listener questions about the case. Many thanks to listeners who sent in questions!

John List - Part 2

In this episode we discuss a true crime classic, John Emil List. On November 9, 1971, John List murdered his wife, three children and his mother before he disappeared without a trace. He became one of the FBI’s most wanted men, evading capture for 18 years. In part 2/2, we talk about how John List became Bob Clark. He was able to change his name but not his quirky personality, which ultimately led to his capture. We also go down a D.B. Cooper rabbit hole and revel in some amazing detective work.

John List - Part 1

In this episode we discuss a true crime classic, John Emil List. On November 9, 1971, John List murdered his wife, three children and his mother before he disappeared without a trace. He became one of the FBI’s most wanted men and evaded capture for 18 years. In part one of this two-part episode, we talk about John’s upbringing in Michigan, the early years of his married life and how things began to fall apart after the Lists purchased the mansion known as Breeze Knoll in Westfield, New Jersey.

Susan and John Hamilton

Valentine’s Day is traditionally a day for flowers, candy, and romance. But sadly for Susan Hamilton, Valentine’s Day of 2001 would be the day she was savagely beaten and killed. Her husband, Dr. John Hamilton, came back to their Oklahoma City home after performing two surgeries that morning to find her lying on the floor of the bathroom with blood everywhere. Who would have killed Susan, and why?

Shele and Rod Covlin - Part 2

As 2009 drew to a close, 47 year old Shele Covlin had a lot going for her. Her career was going well, she had two beautiful kids, and a family that loved her. Sadly, Shele did not live to see the New Year. Was her death a tragic accident or did her estranged husband Rod kill her? In part two of this two-part episode, we discuss the investigation into Shele's death, and Rod's appalling schemes to get at her money.

Debbie Collier

Debbie Collier was a 59 year old beloved mother who died under mysterious circumstances in September, 2022. Her last communication was a cryptic Venmo message to her daughter, Amanda, which led to much suspicion, speculation and confusion about her death. In this bonus episode, we discuss the circumstances around Debbie's mysterious death and whether it was suicide or foul play.

Shele and Rod Covlin - Part 1

As 2009 drew to a close, 47 year old Shele Covlin had a lot going for her. Her career was going well, she had two beautiful kids, and a family that loved her. Sadly, Shele did not live to see the New Year. Was her death a tragic accident or did her estranged husband Rod kill her? In part one of this two-part episode, we discuss Shele and Rod’s background and the circumstances surrounding her death.

Kelly and Jason Cochran, and the Murder of Chris Regan - Part 2

In October 2014, Chris Regan was looking forward to a fresh start with a move from northern Michigan to Asheville, North Carolina, but then he disappeared without a trace. Evidence led police to married couple Jason and Kelly Cochran, but they couldn't piece together exactly what happened. Did Jason kill Chris out of jealousy, or was Kelly the mastermind? In part two of this two-part episode, we discuss the "marriage pact" between Kelly and Jason, the possible motives, and the aftermath.

Ana and Brian Walshe Update

[Note: If you haven’t listened to our earlier episode on this case, start there!] In today’s bonus episode we talk about the arraignment hearing for Brian Walshe and the affidavit from the prosecutor. We discuss the new evidence found as well as Brian’s damning google searches. Follow us on social media for any breaking news. Thanks for you support.

Kelly and Jason Cochran, and the Murder of Chris Regan - Part 1

In October 2014, Chris Regan was looking forward to a fresh start with a move from northern Michigan to Asheville, North Carolina, but then he disappeared without a trace. Evidence led police to married couple Jason and Kelly Cochran, but they couldn't piece together exactly what happened. Did Jason kill Chris out of jealousy, or was Kelly the mastermind? In part one of this two-part episode, we explore Chris's disappearance and the search for clues.

Ana and Brian Walshe

Ana Walshe, a smart, successful and beautiful mother of three young boys, was last seen in the early hours of January 1, 2023. Her husband claims she left for for a work trip to DC but there are no records of her on a flight. Brian, a rather shady person, was arrested on 1/8/2023 for misleading police in their investigation. Blood and a knife were found in his basement as well as other possibly related items at a nearby dump. We hope Ana is found safely soon.

Shanann and Chris Watts - Part 2

In part two of the Chris and Shanann Watts case, we discuss the brutal murders, the possible motivation and the shocking events that led up to the arrest and imprisonment of Chris Watts. Warning: This episode includes content that may be disturbing for young and/or sensitive listeners.