She’s Been to Gaza. She Met With the Iranians. Now She Has a Warning.

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<p>As the head of the International Committee of the Red Cross, Mirjana Spoljaric goes to both sides of conflicts. She’s worried that our warring world is spiraling out of control.</p><ul><li>Thoughts? Email us at&nbsp;<strong>theinterview@nytimes.com</strong></li><li>Watch our show on YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@theinterviewpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>youtube.com/@TheInterviewPodcast</strong></a></li><li>For transcripts and more, visit: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/column/the-interview" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/theinterview</strong></a></li></ul> <p><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p><p> </p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>