Naomi Klein discusses the dangers of data centres, Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical and why our tech overlords want to be edgelords
The Louis Theroux Podcast 
Open in Hinto About this episode
Louis sits down with writer, activist and filmmaker Naomi Klein. They discuss Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical, why data centres are so dangerous, and the tech overlords/edgelords that inspired her latest book, End Times Fascism.     Warnings: Strong language and adult themes.     Links/Attachments:    Book: End Times Fascism, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor (2026)  https://naomiklein.org/end-times-fascism/     Book: Doppelganger, Naomi Klein (2023)  https://naomiklein.org/doppelganger/     Interview: The full-length interview with Elon Musk, The Economist (2026)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuoqKYxDHVc     Play: The Thing I Am, Steve Bannon (1996-1997)  https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/17/opinion/sunday/steve-bannon-hip-hop-shakespeare-rewrite-coriolanus.html     Podcast: Bannon’s WarRoom (2019-present)  https://open.spotify.com/show/0WyF2LaTcrpWfrTIeKjs1L     Book: No Logo, Naomi Klein (1999)  https://naomiklein.org/no-logo/    Song: Heart of Glass, Blondie (1979)  https://open.spotify.com/track/4v2rkl1mC3zVAz0nXMx9r4     Documentary: Bowling for Columbine (2002)  https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0310793/     Credits:  Producer: Tom Fuller  Senior Assistant Producer: Maisie Ellen Williams   Junior Production Manager: Rosie Pender  Production Executive: Francesca Bassett  Original Music: Miguel D’Oliveira  Video Editor: Scott Edwards  Audio Editor: Tom Guest  Series Producer: Millie Chu  Executive Producer: Arron Fellows    A Mindhouse Studios Production for Spotify.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Listen to this episode in English to learn English
Podcast episodes are one of the highest-density ways to absorb English at native pace. Naomi Klein discusses the dangers of data centres, Steve Bannon’s hip hop musical and why our tech overlords want to be edgelords from The Louis Theroux Podcast gives you natural dialogue, unscripted speech, and vocabulary that actually appears in real conversations.
In the Hinto app, every word in the transcript is tappable. Tap an unknown word, see the translation in your language instantly, and keep listening without breaking flow.
Episodes to Learn English
- John Cooper Clarke on touring with the Buzzcocks, meeting Chuck Berry, and inspiring the Arctic Monkeys Nov 4, 2026
- Vinnie Jones on getting sober, mediating with Steven Seagal, and the Gazza incident Oct 20, 2026
- Jon Ronson discusses culture wars, the ‘superbug’ of shamelessness, and his encounters with ‘unravelling men’ Oct 13, 2026
- Guess who's back... Oct 8, 2026
- S8 EP9: Mo Gilligan on being quoted by Drake, his surprising shopping addiction, and eating fried chicken for 28 days straight Aug 4, 2026
- S8 EP8: Gary Stevenson discusses his Mormon upbringing, sparring with Rory Stewart and why a wealth tax could save the economy Jul 28, 2026
- S8 EP7: Olivia Wilde on the pitfalls of long-term love, her unusual family name, and the 'garbage disposal' of tabloid media Jul 20, 2026
- S8 EP6: Mike D discusses breaking rap into the mainstream, the infamous hydraulic penis, and disbanding the Beastie Boys Jul 13, 2026
- S8 EP5: Melanie C on Spiceworld, comparing muscles with Arnold Schwarzenegger and why she’ll always be a Spice Girl Jul 6, 2026
- S8 EP4: Cara Delevingne discusses getting sober, engagement rumours, and being Karl Lagerfeld's muse Jun 29, 2026
- S8 EP3: Andrew Callaghan on the ‘cancelverse’, lizard people, and whether he’s being sued by Melania Trump Jun 22, 2026
- S8 EP2: Marco Pierre White discusses his rift with Gordon Ramsay, retiring from cooking, and having lunch with Margaret Thatcher Jun 15, 2026
- S8 EP1: Gary Lineker on England’s losing streak, leaving the BBC, and his frosty relationship with Cristiano Ronaldo Jun 8, 2026
- Louis's back with Season 8! Jun 1, 2026
- S7 EP8: Yorgos Lanthimos discusses working with Emma Stone, suffering for his art, and directing a Bourne movie Apr 20, 2026
- S7 EP7: Simone Ashley on kissing scenes with Jonathan Bailey, getting kicked out of drama school, and Bridgerton criticism Apr 13, 2026
- S7 EP6: Patrick Radden Keefe on the opioid crisis, criminal career longevity and why access is overrated Apr 6, 2026
- S7 EP5: Laufey discusses viral fame, partying with Bill Murray and the benefits of boredom Mar 30, 2026
- S7 EP4: Stewart Lee on "Netflix comedians”, disastrous gigs, and Elon Musk Mar 24, 2026
- S7 EP3: Lulu discusses alcoholism, marrying a Bee Gee, and David Bowie’s thighs Mar 17, 2026
- S7 EP2: Kyle MacLachlan on his relationship with David Lynch, Showgirls, and viral stardom Mar 10, 2026
- S7 EP1: Boris Becker on encountering Diddy, mind-games with Nadal and his spell in prison Mar 3, 2026
- Louis returns for Season 7! Feb 24, 2026
- S6 EP8: Jimmy Carr discusses the secret to his comedy, being a late bloomer, and controversial stand-up gigs Dec 16, 2025
- S6 EP7: Marina Abramovic on the relationship between performance and pain, never feeling loved in her childhood, and harmful conspiracies Nov 18, 2025
- S6 EP6: Florence Pugh discusses intimacy coordinators, jumping off buildings and getting into character Nov 11, 2025
- S6 EP5: David Byrne on clashes in Talking Heads, neurodivergence, and culture wars Nov 4, 2025
- S6 EP4: Malala Yousafzai discusses misrepresentations of Islam, the Taliban's ‘gender apartheid’, and her views on marriage Oct 28, 2025
- S6 EP3: Bob Vylan on his controversial Glastonbury performance Oct 24, 2025
- S6 EP2: Michael Palin discusses Monty Python dynamics, famous fans, and ‘Life of Brian’ controversies Oct 13, 2025
