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NEW FROM THE BUILDERS: Elon Musk: "Humans Won't Be in Control" When AI Becomes Smarter Than Us

NEW FROM THE BUILDERS: Elon Musk: "Humans Won't Be in Control" When AI Becomes Smarter Than Us

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Oct 29, 2026 40 min
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<p>Elon Musk has spent his career turning improbable ideas into companies that reshape the world. To some, the entrepreneur behind Tesla and SpaceX is an engineering genius whose ambitions have transformed electric cars and space travel. To others, his politics and extraordinary influence raise serious questions about the future he is building. Either way, the world&rsquo;s first trillionaire is betting Tesla&rsquo;s future on AI and humanoid robots, and SpaceX&rsquo;s on life beyond Earth.</p> <p>In this season&rsquo;s debut episode, Walter asks Musk about DOGE regrets, why he believes robots will solve America&rsquo;s national debt, and the dark politics that have consumed his own platform, X. Along the way, Musk shares why living in a simulation demands that we all be less boring. A candid conversation about the imagination, drive and contradictions of a man determined to turn his vision into our future.</p> <p>Interview taped August 6, 2026.</p> <p><em>And be sure to pick up Walter Isaacson&rsquo;s </em><a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Innovators/Walter-Isaacson/9781476708706">The Innovators: How a Group of Hackers, Geniuses, and Geeks Created the Digital Revolution</a><em>, wherever fine books are sold.</em></p> <p>ABOUT THE HOST<br>Walter Isaacson is the bestselling author of biographies of Elon Musk, Jennifer Doudna, Leonardo da Vinci, Steve Jobs, Benjamin Franklin, and Albert Einstein. He is a professor of history at Tulane University and previously served as CEO of the Aspen Institute, chair and CEO of CNN, and editor of Time. He was awarded the National Humanities Medal in 2023.</p> <p>IN THIS SEASON<br>Elon Musk (Tesla, SpaceX, xAI)<br>Peter Thiel (Founders Fund, PayPal, Palantir)<br>Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI, DeepMind)<br>Dario Amodei and Daniela Amodei (Anthropic)<br>and more!</p><p>See <a href="https://omnystudio.com/listener">omnystudio.com/listener</a> for privacy information.</p>

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