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What Did The Stoics Get WRONG? | Nick Thompson (CEO of The Atlantic)

What Did The Stoics Get WRONG? | Nick Thompson (CEO of The Atlantic)

The Daily Stoic
Nov 1, 2025 50 min
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<p>Running isn’t just good exercise, it’s Stoicism in motion. In part two of Ryan’s conversation with <a href="https://www.instagram.com/nxthompson/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nick Thompson</a>, CEO of&nbsp;<em>The Atlantic</em>, they talk about how running mirrors the daily discipline of Stoic philosophy, the decline of expertise in modern life, the one decision Marcus Aurelius made that changed history, and what the Stoics might have gotten wrong.</p><br><p>Nick Thompson is the CEO of&nbsp;<em>The Atlantic</em>, an American magazine founded in 1857, which earned the top honor for magazines, General Excellence, at the National Magazine Awards in both 2022 and 2023. In his time as CEO, the company has seen record subscriber growth. Before joining&nbsp;<em>The Atlantic</em>, he was the editor-in-chief of&nbsp;<em>Wired</em>&nbsp;magazine. He is also a former contributor for CBS News and has previously served as editor. He has long been a competitive runner; in 2021, he set the American record for men 45+ in the 50K race.</p><br><p>Check out Nick’s new book&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Running-Ground-Father-Simplest-Sports/dp/0593244125" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>The Running Ground: A Father, a Son, and the Simplest of Sports</em></a></p><br><p>Follow Nick on&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nxthompson/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>&nbsp;and&nbsp;<a href="https://x.com/nxthompson" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">X</a>&nbsp;<a href="https://www.instagram.com/nxthompson/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@NXThompson</a></p><br><p>🎟️ Come see<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;Ryan Holiday LIVE</a>:&nbsp;<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dailystoiclive.com/</a></p><p><br></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1830976292379?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seattle, WA&nbsp;- December 3, 2025&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1527497619499?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Diego, CA - February 5, 2026&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1830981698549?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phoenix, AZ - February 27, 2026&nbsp;</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing to<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> The Daily Stoic Premium</a> - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://dailystoic.supercast.com/</a></p><br><p>📖<a href="https://store.dailystoic.com/pages/wisdom-takes-work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">&nbsp;<em>Wisdom Takes Work</em></a>&nbsp;by Ryan Holiday is out NOW! 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