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When Good People Lose Themselves to Tyrants | James Romm (PT. 1)

When Good People Lose Themselves to Tyrants | James Romm (PT. 1)

The Daily Stoic
Aug 13, 2025 38 min
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<p>What makes smart, principled people work for the worst leaders? In this conversation, historian and author James Romm and Ryan dig into the timeless trap that’s snared some of history’s greatest minds, from Plato and Seneca to modern politics. They talk about the seduction of access, the slow erosion of integrity, and why walking away from a tyrant’s court is so much harder than it looks.</p><br><p>James Romm is an author, reviewer, and a Professor of Classics at Bard College in Annandale, NY. He specializes in ancient Greek and Roman culture and civilization. His reviews and essays have appeared in the New Yorker, the Wall Street Journal, the London Review of Books, the Daily Beast, and other venues. He has held the Guggenheim Fellowship (1999-2000), the Birkelund Fellowship at the Dorothy and Lewis B. Cullman Center for Writers and Scholars at the New York Public Library (2010-11), and a Biography Fellowship at the Leon Levy Center of the City University of New York (2014-15).</p><br><p>Follow James on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/james.romm/?locale=putih%2Bslot%E3%80%90777ONE.IN%E3%80%91.hqny&amp;hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/james.romm/?locale=putih%2Bslot%E3%80%90777ONE.IN%E3%80%91.hqny&amp;hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@James.Romm </a>and check out more of his work at his website, <a href="https://www.jamesromm.com/about" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.jamesromm.com</a></p><br><p>&nbsp;📚 Get signed copies of James' latest book <a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/plato-and-the-tyrant-the-fall-of-greeces-greatest-dynasty-and-the-making-of-a-philosophic-masterpiece?_pos=2&amp;_sid=dced56267&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Plato and the Tyrant</em></a>, and his other books <a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/dying-every-day-seneca-at-the-court-of-nero-signed-by-author?_pos=3&amp;_sid=dced56267&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Dying Every Day</em></a>, <a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/how-to-die-an-ancient-guide-to-the-end-of-life?_pos=4&amp;_sid=dced56267&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How To Die</em></a>, and <a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/how-to-give-an-ancient-guide-to-giving-and-receiving-ancient-wisdom-for-modern-readers?_pos=7&amp;_sid=dced56267&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>How To Give</em></a>, at The Painted Porch | <a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/search?type=product&amp;q=james+romm*" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.thepaintedporch.com/</a></p><br><p>🎙️ Listen to James Romm’s <a href="https://dailystoic.com/romm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">first episode on</a> The Daily Stoic Podcast: &nbsp;<a href="https://dailystoic.com/romm/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://dailystoic.com/romm/</a></p><br><p>📖 Preorder the final book in Ryan Holiday's The Stoic Virtues Series: "Wisdom Takes Work":<a href="https://store.dailystoic.com/pages/wisdom-takes-work" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://store.dailystoic.com/pages/wisdom-takes-work</a></p><br><p>🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Instagram</a>: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast</a></p><br><p>🎥 Watch top moments from <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@dailystoicpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">The Daily Stoic Podcast</a> on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@dailystoicpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">YouTube</a>: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@dailystoicpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@dailystoicpodcast</a></p><br><p>✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? 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