The Iranians Who Want More War

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<p>Fractures in Tehran are pitting a faction favoring negotiation with Washington against hard-liners who oppose making a deal with the United States. </p> <p>Guest:</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/abdi-latif-dahir" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Abdi Latif Dahir</strong></a>, a Middle East correspondent for The New York Times, covering Lebanon and Syria.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/farnaz-fassihi" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Farnaz Fassihi</strong></a>, the United Nations bureau chief for The New York Times. She also covers Iran and how countries around the world deal with conflicts in the Middle East.</li> </ul> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>What <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/25/world/middleeast/iran-war-journey-scars.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">a journey through wartime Iran</a> revealed.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/08/world/middleeast/iran-divisions-us-leaders.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Divisions festered within Iran</a> over talks with the United States.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Agence France-Presse — Getty Images</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>