The REAL Difference Between Stoics and Cynics | Cynicism Expert Inger Kuin (PT. 2)

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<p>What can Diogenes teach us about the roots of Stoicism? In today’s episode, Ryan and classicist Inger Kuin break down the real gap between Stoicism and Cynicism, discussing why one trusted order and structure while the other thought most of society was nonsense. They get into Diogenes’ legendary stunts, the Stoics’ attempt to distance themselves from him, and why the world still needs people who question absolutely everything.</p><br><p><a href="https://ingerkuin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Inger Kuin</a> is a researcher, writer, and teacher focused on the intellectual history of ancient Greece and Rome. She is <a href="https://classics.as.virginia.edu/inger-ni-kuin" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Associate Professor of Classics at the University of Virginia</a>. Originally from The Netherlands, she publishes both in English and in Dutch.</p><br><p>Check out Inger’s website: <a href="https://ingerkuin.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://ingerkuin.com/</a></p><br><p>Be sure to pick up a copy of Inger’s new book <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Diogenes-Rebellious-Revolutionary-Philosophy-Original/dp/1541606477" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Diogenes: The Rebellious Life and Revolutionary Philosophy of the Original Cynic</em></a><em>.&nbsp;</em></p><br><p>📚 Books that Ryan recommended to Inger:</p><p><a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/tales-of-soldiers-and-civilians-and-other-stories-penguin-classics?_pos=1&amp;_sid=9b0986a10&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Tales of Soldiers and Civilians: and Other Stories by Ambrose Bierce</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/thoughts-of-a-philosophical-fighter-pilot-volume-431-hoover-institution-press-publication?_pos=3&amp;_sid=988d41b7f&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Thoughts of a Philosophical Fighter Pilot </em>by James Stockdale<em>&nbsp;</em></a></p><p><a href="https://www.thepaintedporch.com/products/moral-ambition-stop-wasting-your-talent-and-start-making-a-difference-1?_pos=1&amp;_sid=45d1aafc0&amp;_ss=r" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><em>Moral Ambition</em> by Rutger Bregman&nbsp;</a></p><br><p>🎟️ Come see<a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Ryan Holiday LIVE</a>: <a href="https://www.dailystoiclive.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.dailystoiclive.com/</a></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1830976292379?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Seattle, WA&nbsp; - December 3, 2025&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1527497619499?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">San Diego, CA - February 5, 2026&nbsp;</a></li><li><a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/daily-stoic-live-onstage-with-ryan-holiday-tickets-1830981698549?aff=oddtdtcreator" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Phoenix, AZ - February 27, 2026 </a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing to<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> The Daily Stoic Premium</a> - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content:<a href="https://dailystoic.supercast.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://dailystoic.supercast.com/</a></p><br><p>🎥 Watch the video episodes on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> The Daily Stoic YouTube channel</a>:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos</a></p><br><p>🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast on<a href="https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast/?hl=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> Instagram</a>:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"> https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast</a></p><br><p>✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? 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