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Apple News In Conversation with Shumita Basu brings you interviews with some of the world’s best journalists and experts about the stories that impact our lives. Join us every week as we go behind the headlines.
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Rebroadcast: What losing family taught Anderson Cooper about grief and gratitude
May 23, 202433 min<p><em>This is an episode from our archives.</em><br /><br />Anderson Cooper is now the only living member of the family he grew up with. When he was 10 years old, his father died of a heart attack. His brother died by suicide about a decade later. And in 2019, his mother died at the age of 95. It’s only recently that Cooper has been able to talk about and process these deaths. For<em> Apple News In Conversation</em>’s <em>Think Again </em>series, he spoke with host Shumita Basu about what he’s learned by talking to people about death and grief on his podcast, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/all-there-is-with-anderson-cooper/id1643163707" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>All There Is</em></a> — and the advice he has for those who are struggling with loss.</p>

Retirement is daunting. Here’s how Americans are making it work.
May 16, 202431 min<p>Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: Whether you’re 30 or 50 years old, it can be difficult to know what your life in retirement is going to look like and how to best prepare for it. <em>Wall Street Journal</em> reporters Anne Tergesen and Veronica Dagher spoke to people with a wide variety of retirement experiences — from those retiring on almost nothing but <a href="https://apple.news/AsD-TRCE-SBm6ZCPC4PNyWQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Social Security</a> to those with <a href="https://apple.news/AkgP0Js9QQni0ZUrd4CJFtA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">$5 million</a> — about how they are each making it work regardless of the number in their bank accounts.</p>

How to become your own boss
May 9, 202423 min<p>Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: More and more people are becoming self-employed in the U.S. And when it comes to being your own boss, everything from your finances to your attitude can shape whether your business is a success. Paco de Leon is a personal-finance expert and host of the podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/weird-finance/id1670986446" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Weird Finance</em></a>. She sits down with <em>Apple News In Conversation</em>guest host Julia Carpenter to share some of the best advice she’s learned from her own experience, and from guiding clients to create their own businesses.</p>

Rebroadcast: His father was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. He went looking for answers.
May 2, 202434 min<p><em>This is an episode from our archives.</em><br /><br />Around 2013, author and cardiologist Sandeep Jauhar started noticing some worrying changes in his father. He would forget the code to their safe; he couldn’t remember what he did the day before and would get lost driving home. Eventually, his father was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s disease. In his new book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/my-fathers-brain/id1623194942" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>My Father’s Brain: Life in the Shadow of Alzheimer’s</em></a>, Jauhar chronicles the challenges of caring for a sick parent and explains where medicine is today when it comes to treatment for this incurable illness.</p>

How to make America a better place to raise kids
Apr 25, 202428 min<p>Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: The United States is one of the wealthiest countries in the world. But when it comes to support for parents and families, we lag behind many of our peers. We have relatively high infant- and maternal-mortality rates and no national parental-leave policy. We spend far less on early-childhood care than other wealthy countries do. Economist and parenting expert <a href=“https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/parentdata-with-emily-oster/id1633515294”>Emily Oster</a> argues that it doesn’t have to be this way. She sat down with <em>Apple News In Conversation</em> guest host Julia Carpenter to talk about some concrete ways we could make this country a better place to start a family.</p>

How money affects your mental health
Apr 18, 202430 min<p>Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: Losing your job. Being evicted. Hearing your parents fight about money. These can all be forms of financial trauma. Megan McCoy, a marriage and family psychologist specializing in financial therapy, explains how these traumas can have a long-standing effect on your relationship with money and how to break the cycle.</p>

How a financial-advice columnist got scammed out of $50,000
Apr 11, 202426 min<p>Guest-hosted by Julia Carpenter: Charlotte Cowles never thought she’d fall for a scam. She’s savvy about money and even writes a financial-advice column for <a href="https://apple.news/AEXkv-9S2ROa70KqmZhNaZw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Cut</em></a>. But last fall, scammers persuaded her to put $50,000 in cash in a shoebox and hand it over, wiping out her life savings. Cowles tells her story to <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>guest host Julia Carpenter and offers tips on how to prevent this from happening to you.</p>

Rebroadcast: Tom Hanks on what it takes to make a movie
Apr 4, 202420 min<p><em>This is an episode from our archives.</em><br /><br />Tom Hanks has learned a thing or two about moviemaking during his decades-long career. Ultimately, he says, it’s not about one person’s vision or direction; it’s about the countless people behind the camera — and a few in front of it — who make a movie possible. That’s the foundational idea behind his debut novel, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-making-of-another-major-motion-picture-masterpiece/id6443397015" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Making of Another Major Motion Picture Masterpiece</em></a>. Hanks spoke to <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>host Shumita Basu before SAG-AFTRA, the union that represents actors, decided to strike. But his book and their conversation are a reminder of all that goes into creating the entertainment many of us take for granted.</p>

The U.S. political system is broken. Here are five ideas to fix it.
Mar 28, 202427 min<p>Guest-hosted by Brian Stelter: The United States is one of the greatest democracies in the world. But, for a lot of people in this country, it doesn’t feel that way. A recent Pew Research survey found that about 7 in 10 Americans feel that our political system is not working well. Ezra Klein is one of the top thinkers and writers on U.S. politics. He’s also an opinion columnist for the <em>New York Times </em>and host of the podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ezra-klein-show/id1548604447" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Ezra Klein Show</em></a>. Klein sat down with <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>guest host Brian Stelter to talk about some concrete ways we could make our system better.</p>

Who’s better for the economy — Biden or Trump?
Mar 21, 202419 min<p>Guest-hosted by Brian Stelter: Many Americans say the economy is their top issue this election year, with roughly two-thirds of voters saying they don’t feel it’s working for them. That’s despite a variety of indicators that show the economy is healthy and thriving. Guest host Brian Stelter talked with Megan Leonhardt, a senior writer for <a href="https://apple.news/AFp1h4TqnREu5kYBAzdwrmw">Barron’s</a>, and Betsey Stevenson, a labor economist and professor at the University of Michigan, about the disconnect between the data and voter sentiment, as well as Joe Biden’s and Donald Trump’s first-term track records.</p>

Not sure what’s real or fake online? Here are some tips.
Mar 14, 202431 min<p>Guest-hosted by Brian Stelter: Between the upcoming presidential election, rapidly improving artificial intelligence, and weakened social-media safeguards, disinformation is becoming an increasingly urgent issue in the U.S. In her new book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/attack-from-within/id6448880114" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Attack From Within: How Disinformation Is Sabotaging America</em></a>, legal analyst and former U.S. attorney Barbara McQuade argues that American democracy will suffer if we don’t distinguish truth from lies. McQuade spoke with <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>guest host Brian Stelter about America’s disinformation problem and how to address it.</p>

Everything you need to know about Trump’s four criminal trials
Mar 7, 202430 min<p>Guest-hosted by Brian Stelter: Donald Trump is the first president — current or former — to face criminal charges. The first of his four criminal trials is set to begin at the end of March, with at least one other expected to take place before the presidential election. Guest host Brian Stelter spoke with Scott Detrow, host of NPR’s <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trumps-trials/id1715894000" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em><strong>Trump’s Trials</strong></em></a> podcast, and Karen Tumulty, political columnist for the <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/karen-tumulty/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em><strong>Washington Post</strong></em></a>, about the charges against Trump and how he’ll split his time between the courtroom and campaign trail.</p>

Could Biden drop out of the race? Can Trump run if he’s convicted? Your 2024 election questions, answered.
Feb 29, 202434 min<p>Guest-hosted by Brian Stelter: This year’s presidential election is unprecedented for many reasons. Republican front-runner and former president Donald Trump is facing 91 criminal charges in four separate trials. President Joe Biden, the presumed Democratic nominee, is facing serious criticisms over his age. Guest host Brian Stelter sat down with<em> New Yorker </em>staff writers Susan B. Glasser, Jane Mayer, and Evan Osnos, who also cohost <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-political-scene-the-new-yorker/id268213039" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Political Scene</em></a> podcast. He asks whether backup plans exist for either candidate, what the rules are around electing someone convicted of a crime, and why this campaign cycle is sure to be unlike any other.</p>

The WNBA is building something — and it’s not just the women’s version of the NBA
Feb 22, 202427 min<p>Guest-hosted by David Greene: Sheryl Swoopes, often called the “female Michael Jordan,” was the first player signed to the WNBA. Her story is featured in the new documentary <a href="https://tubitv.com/movies/100014374/shattered-glass-a-wnbpa-story" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Shattered Glass: A WNBPA Story</em></a>, which takes a look at how far the league has come since Swoopes’s early days — and what today’s pro athletes say they still need from the league. Guest host David Greene spoke with Swoopes and the film’s director, Andrea Buccilla.</p>

Former elite gymnast Maggie Nichols speaks out about Larry Nassar’s abuse
Feb 15, 202422 min<p>Guest-hosted by David Greene: Maggie Nichols was the first athlete on the national team to report former USA Gymnastics doctor Larry Nassar’s sexual abuse to the organization in June 2015. A year later, she was not selected for the U.S. Olympic team. She spoke with guest host David Greene about her new memoir, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/unstoppable/id6450285390" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Unstoppable!</em></a></p> <p><em>Warning: This episode includes descriptions of sexual violence and restrictive eating.</em></p>

Why America is obsessed with the NFL
Feb 9, 202432 min<p>Guest-hosted by David Greene: The NFL accounted for 93 of the top 100 U.S. broadcasts in 2023, according to Nielsen ratings. But not that long ago, the league was reeling from controversies around head injuries, allegations of racism in its hiring practices, and players protesting police brutality. To better understand the NFL’s staying power, <em>Apple News In Conversation</em> guest host David Greene spoke with sports journalist Pablo Torre, host of the podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pablo-torre-finds-out/id1685093486"><em>Pablo Torre Finds Out</em></a>. They dig into the league’s ups and downs, America’s obsession with football, and the Taylor Swift effect.</p>

College sports are a multibillion-dollar business. Why aren’t athletes getting a cut?
Feb 1, 202424 min<p>Guest-hosted by David Greene: College football and basketball are multibillion-dollar industries. But while some Division 1 coaches and athletic directors make millions of dollars each year, the players themselves are not paid by the schools they compete for. That may soon change. The NCAA is facing a slew of lawsuits that could lead to student athletes being treated and compensated as university employees. ESPN panelist and <a href="https://apple.news/AXbNh_nb4QQ6LfVgCF3AH0g" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Washington Post</em></a> columnist Kevin Blackistone spoke with <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>guest host David Greene about the case against the NCAA — and the role that race plays in this debate.</p>

Inside the mind of one of the New Yorker’s most iconic cartoonists
Jan 25, 202431 min<p>Roz Chast started at the<em> New Yorker </em>in 1978, when there was only one other woman cartoonist at the magazine. Decades later, she is a celebrated figure in the cartoon world and has become well-known for her distinctive style and humor. Her latest book, <a href="https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/i-must-be-dreaming-9781620403228/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>I Must Be Dreaming</em></a>, is an illustrated guide to Chast’s dreams and the inner workings of her mind. Chast spoke with <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>host Shumita Basu about following her artistic intuition, the popularity of <em>New Yorker </em>cartoons, and her collection of canned goods.</p>

“There is a government cover-up around UFOs. It’s just not the one that you think.”
Jan 18, 202435 min<p>Have we been visited by extraterrestrial life? And how much does the government really know when it comes to UFOs? Garrett Graff’s latest book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/ufo/id6445638086" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government’s Search for Alien Life Here — and Out There</em></a>, investigates these questions and more. The national-security reporter recently sat down with <em>Apple News In Conversation</em>host Shumita Basu to share his findings.</p>

How the evangelical church became so political, according to a pastor’s son
Jan 11, 202429 min<p>Journalist Tim Alberta was raised in the evangelical church and is a practicing Christian. But he’s grown increasingly concerned about how entrenched politics has become in the evangelical movement. In his latest book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-kingdom-the-power-and-the-glory/id6445634752" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory: American Evangelicals in an Age of Extremism</em></a>, Alberta lays out the state of the evangelical church today and its shift toward the cultural and political fringes. Below are excerpts from Alberta’s interview with <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>host Shumita Basu.</p>

Esther Perel on the real reasons couples fight
Jan 4, 202432 min<p><a href="https://www.estherperel.com/courses/turning-conflict-into-connection" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Esther Perel</a> is the relationship expert many couples dream of scheduling a session with. Her podcast, <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/where-should-we-begin-with-esther-perel/id1237931798" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Where Should We Begin? With Esther Perel</em></a>, offers the next best thing. In it, she helps real couples work through their issues, often providing insights that are relevant to other relationships. <em>Apple News In Conversation</em> host Shumita Basu spoke with Perel about how she approaches her work, the challenges of modern love, and how to resolve conflict.</p>

Rebroadcast: Your brain is hardwired to resist change. Here’s how to retrain it.
Dec 28, 202329 min<p><em>This is an episode from our archives.</em></p> <p>Transitions can feel intimidating and destabilizing. But these moments can also be opportunities for growth, reflection, and self-discovery — especially when you have the right tools. In this episode of <em>Apple News In Conversation</em>, host Shumita Basu talks to <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hidden-brain/id1028908750" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Hidden Brain</em></a>’s Shankar Vedantam about why pivot points can feel so challenging and how to embrace them as opportunities, rather than obstacles.</p>

Rebroadcast: ‘The Office’ star Rainn Wilson on how to let go of resentment and find happiness
Dec 21, 202334 min<p><em>This is an episode from our archives.</em></p> <p>Rainn Wilson understands why so many people are rejecting religion today. But he argues that the core aspects of faith still have something important to offer us. Spirituality has brought him community, purpose, and joy — even as he’s struggled with depression, anxiety, and addiction. The actor explores these themes and shares what he’s learned in his book <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/soul-boom/id6443263420" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Soul Boom: Why We Need a Spiritual Revolution</em></a> and docuseries, <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/rainn-wilson-and-the-geography-of-bliss" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Rainn Wilson and the Geography of Bliss</em></a>.</p>

How to unlock your family’s history
Dec 14, 202326 min<p>Elizabeth Keating didn’t realize how little she knew about her mother’s life until after she had died. A trained anthropologist, Keating decided to develop a guide for interviewing and recording loved ones’ histories before it’s too late. Her book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/the-essential-questions/id1610899966" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Essential Questions: Interview Your Family to Uncover Stories and Bridge Generations</em></a>, offers a blueprint for these conversations along with thought-provoking questions. On <em>Apple News In Conversation</em>, Keating shares what this process can teach us about ourselves and our families with host Shumita Basu.</p>

A guide to smarter, more ethical shopping this holiday season
Dec 7, 202320 min<p>Holiday spending is expected to reach record levels this year. That makes for a lot of packages — and a lot of returns, donations, and junk. On <em>Apple News In Conversation</em>, host Shumita Basu speaks with <a href="https://apple.news/ToeaQ_L_NQPCFBus3ZQ7O4A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>The Atlantic</em></a>’s Amanda Mull, who reveals the strategies retailers use to get you to buy more stuff, and what you can do to have a more sustainable holiday.</p>

Rachel Maddow on America’s history of fighting fascism
Nov 30, 202329 min<p>Rachel Maddow is best known for her show on MSNBC. But she’s also a serious history buff. In her latest book, <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/prequel/id6449888093" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism</em></a>, Maddow lays out the rise of a dangerous antidemocratic movement in the United States in the 1930s and ’40s and how Americans stopped that campaign from flourishing. Maddow spoke with <em>Apple News In Conversation</em> host Shumita Basu about this forgotten piece of history and what it can teach us about responding to threats to democracy today.</p>

Rebroadcast: Why relationships fall apart over dirty dishes — and how to avoid the trap
Nov 23, 202335 min<p>In this episode from our archives, <em>Apple News In Conversation </em>host Shumita Basu talks with Kate Mangino, a gender expert and the author of the book <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/equal-partners/id1584661471" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home</em></a>. Mangino points to research that shows women still take on the majority of household responsibilities in different-sex relationships — and she argues there’s a better way for partners to balance the mental and physical labor of running a home.</p>

What a former astronaut says TV gets right and wrong about space
Nov 16, 202334 min<p>What if the United States had lost the space race — and the Soviet Union had been the first to land a man on the moon? These are the driving questions behind the Apple TV+ series <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/for-all-mankind/umc.cmc.6wsi780sz5tdbqcf11k76mkp7" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em><strong>For All Mankind</strong></em></a>. The show explores the ripple effects of what coming in second could have meant for American culture, the feminist movement, geopolitics, and technology over several decades. And while fiction, it offers warnings about the future of space travel. On this week’s episode of <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-news-in-conversation/id1577591053" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em><strong>Apple News In Conversation</strong></em></a>, host Shumita Basu talks to the show’s technical adviser and former NASA astronaut Garrett Reisman about how he helps ground the series in science.</p>

“It’s intolerable”: the New Yorker’s David Remnick on the Israel-Hamas war
Nov 9, 202331 min<p>David Remnick has reported on Israel and the Palestinian territories for many years. But his most recent trip to Israel was like nothing he’d seen before. In an article for the <a href="https://apple.news/AuWA128wzTeiNH8UIh6kVNA" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>New Yorker</em></a>, Remnick writes about visiting with survivors of the Hamas massacre, Israel’s assaults on Gaza, and what comes next. Below are excerpts from his interview with <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/apple-news-in-conversation/id1577591053"><em>Apple News In Conversation </em></a>host Shumita Basu.</p>

How facial-recognition technology is upending privacy as we know it
Nov 2, 202334 min<p>Big tech companies first started working on artificial facial recognition more than a decade ago. But they chose not to release it, worried about who might use it and how. Then, in 2017, the small startup Clearview AI debuted its facial-recognition app and began marketing its tool to law-enforcement agencies. This week on <em>Apple News In Conversation,</em> host Shumita Basu talks to Kashmir Hill, a<em> New York Times</em> tech reporter and author of the new book <a href="https://books.apple.com/us/book/your-face-belongs-to-us/id6445181767" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><em>Your Face Belongs to Us</em></a>, about what this technology is capable of, what guardrails exist, and what the future of privacy might look like.</p>