They Protested ICE. Now They’ve Been Convicted of Terrorism.

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<p>On July 4, 2025, a group of 10 antifa protesters was arrested, accused of what the federal government called a planned attack on the Prairieland detention facility in Texas. They were prosecuted as terrorists.</p><p>Janet Reitman, who has been covering the story, discusses the legal case and the questions it raises about who now qualifies as a terrorist in America.</p><p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/janet-reitman" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Janet Reitman</strong></a>, who writes for The New York Times Magazine.</p><p>Background reading:&nbsp;</p><ul><li>Inside the group of <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/05/magazine/prairieland-protesters-socialist-rifle-association.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Texans accused of being antifa terrorists</a>.</li></ul><p>Photo: Juan Figueroa/The Dallas Morning News, via Getty Images</p> <p><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p><p> </p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>