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Want to Enjoy Music More? Go For a Run.

Want to Enjoy Music More? Go For a Run.

The Daily
Nov 1, 2026 36 min
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<p>Ben Ratliff, a music critic and avid runner, always ran in silence. Then he discovered how music opened up to him — while running. It changed his entire approach to criticism and listening. He calls it “running the song.”</p><p>Today, for the New York City Marathon, Ben talks with our host Rachel Abrams about how his listening sharpens when he runs to music.</p><p>Then, he goes through highlights from his five-hour <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4RUN1iWr1KA4GsGpQ1vcbI?si=HqafUDVeRqW0yPLMshiB0A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">New York City Marathon playlist</a>, which is designed to complement a run through the five boroughs, featuring various styles of music connected to the places on the route.</p><p><strong>On Today’s Episode</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ben-ratliff" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ben Ratliff</a>, a former New York Times music critic, a music professor and the author of <a href="https://www.nationalbook.org/books/run-the-song-writing-about-running-about-listening/" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">“Run the Song: Writing About Running About Listening.”</a></li></ul><p><strong>Background Listening</strong></p><ul><li><a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/4RUN1iWr1KA4GsGpQ1vcbI?si=HqafUDVeRqW0yPLMshiB0A" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Ben Ratliff’s New York City Marathon playlist</a></li></ul><p><strong>Photo: </strong>Karsten Moran for The New York Times</p> <p><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p><p> </p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>

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