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How Intelligent Is AI, Really?

How Intelligent Is AI, Really?

Y Combinator Startup Podcast
Dec 17, 2025 12 min
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<p>ARC-AGI is redefining how to measure progress on the path to AGI - focusing on reasoning, generalization, and adaptability instead of memorization or scale.</p><p><br></p><p>During this month&#39;s NeurIPS 2025 conference, YC&#39;s Diana Hu sat down with ARC Prize Foundation President Greg Kamradt to find out why most AI benchmarks fail, how ARC-AGI reveals the limits of today’s models, and why measuring intelligence may be harder than building it.</p>

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