A radical approach to marriage with Kaley and Nate Klemp
About this episode
It is well documented that times of dramatic societal change, like the one we are in now, can either undo relationships or strengthen them. My guests this week are married couple Kaley and Nick Klemp and they found their relationship nearly undone to the point of break-up because of power struggles they were experiencing over trying to make things fair. So they decided to try a new approach which they call the 80/80 Marriage. The idea is that each person gives 80% as opposed to the traditional 50%, which is what they call radical generosity. It’s based on giving more than required. It’s not based on traditional gender roles or this idea of fairness. You may be thinking I am barely able to give 50%. How can you be suggesting we give more? I hear you on that and I do challenge them on that exact point. Their answer was fascinating. This is a model that rather than being based on what’s best for me, asks what’s best for us. Simple but quite radical if you think about what that might mean. I cannot wait to hear what you think about this idea. Would you be willing to give it a go? What difference do you think it might make in your marriage or any relationship? We talk about: - What is an 80/80 marriage? - Why the 50/50 marriage almost destroyed their marriage - How equality left them feeling resentful in the marriage - What is the 80/50 hangover - How has the Pandemic intersected with the 80/80 concept - What does radical generosity look like in a marriage - Letting go of the scorecard and transitioning beyond resentment - How to balance your professional pursuits - How their marriage feels today - Tools that make a difference As always, we continue the conversation over on Instagram, so come and join us there. FREEBIES! Find out how you can take control of your life, reconnect to you and more! Download ‘10 Ways to Reconnect to You’ and our weekly and monthly check-in on Motherkind.co. Are you ready to find freedom from guilt? Let me help you find Freedom from Perfectionism if you are a mother who has ever felt not quite enough. THIS EPISODE IS KINDLY SUPPORTED BY WILD DEODORANT Wild is a natural deodorant that is free of aluminum and parabens whilst also being guilty-free and vegan. What I love about wild is that it actually works. As a mum, I’m on the move all day and Wild which I’ve been using for a while now keeps me fresh as a daisy. It comes in a fully sustainable case for life with little refills you pop in that are biodegradable and recyclable. This is such a simple switch to make for ourselves and the planet. Go to Wearewild.com and pop in MOTHERKIND for 20% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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