Canada Is Done With Trump

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<p>In a dramatic decision, the prime minister of Canada abruptly cut off negotiations with the United States, delivering the message to President Trump that he would rather engage in an ugly trade war than submit to an unfair deal.</p> <p>Matina Stevis-Gridneff, the Canada bureau chief for The New York Times, explains how the two countries reached a breaking point and describes Canada’s plan to withstand economic warfare.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/matina-stevis-gridneff" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Matina Stevis-Gridneff</strong></a>, the Canada bureau chief for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/23/world/canada/canada-us-trade-war-trump-carney.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what to know</a> about the trade war.</li> <li>This is how <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/25/world/canada/trump-carney-trade-war-tariffs.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">the U.S.-Canada talks collapsed</a>.</li> <li>The tariffs could <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/24/world/canada/us-tariffs-trade-economy.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">price Canadian firms out of the United States</a> and threaten thousands of jobs.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Cole Burston/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images</p> <p><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p><p> </p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>