How Trump Was Persuaded to Regulate A.I.

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<p>President Trump has begrudgingly accepted that artificial intelligence requires oversight and on Tuesday signed an executive order asking companies to voluntarily give the government access to new models before they’re released to the public.</p> <p>Tripp Mickle, who covers Silicon Valley, discusses the battle in the White House over the issue and how it played out over the last few weeks. </p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/tripp-mickle" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Tripp Mickle</strong></a>, who reports about Silicon Valley for The New York Times from San Francisco.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li>Mr. <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/02/technology/trump-executive-order-ai.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Trump signed an executive order</a> seeking oversight of A.I. models.</li> <li><a href="http://nytimes.com/2026/06/03/business/dealbook/trump-ai-pivot.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Here’s what’s driving</a> Mr. Trump’s big A.I. pivot.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times</p> <p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p> <p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>