About this episode
<p><i>Warning: this episode mentions suicide.</i></p> <p>The trial of Lindsay Clancy, a mother who is being tried for the killings of her three young children, has captivated the country for weeks. It has also raised difficult questions about how we treat postpartum women who are in crisis.</p> <p>Ellen Barry, a New York Times reporter who has been covering the trial, takes us inside the courtroom and explains the stakes of the outcome.</p> <p>Guest: <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/by/ellen-barry" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"><strong>Ellen Barry</strong></a>, a reporter covering mental health for The New York Times.</p> <p>Background reading: </p> <ul> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/article/lindsay-clancy-trial-murder-children.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">What we know about the trial</a> of Lindsay Clancy for her children’s deaths.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/22/us/lindsay-clancy-mothers-kill-children-punishment.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Why the Lindsay Clancy case is dividing Americans</a>.</li> <li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/27/style/lindsay-clancy-trial-support.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">How to understand the wide range of sympathy</a> for a mother on trial for murder.</li> </ul> <p>Photo: Pool photo by Greg Derr</p> <p><p>For more information on today’s episode, visit <a href="http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily"><strong>nytimes.com/thedaily</strong></a>. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday. </p><p> </p><p>Subscribe today at <a href="http://nytimes.com/podcasts">nytimes.com/podcasts</a> or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher">https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher</a>. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.</p></p><br/> <p>Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See <a href="https://pcm.adswizz.com">pcm.adswizz.com</a> for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.</p>
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